I've upgraded my client to Notes 8.5.2, sure it took a couple of goes and I ended up having to completely uninstall and reinstall - but I got there. I've since done an upgrade on a different PC (but that one didn't have designer) and I didn't have the same problems - so, maybe it was just a glitch on my PC. So... What's new in IBM Lotus Notes 8.5.2? Well, if you really want to learn the answer to that question, ask IBM . There's something about XPages too I think but the really important bit is ... the icons.. no, really... We've been waiting ages for this. Let's hope it won't be another 18 years before we get 64x64 icons. So... the first thing I did in the 8.5.2 designer was upgrade my Smurf. Yep, the database that I've had as my best friend for the last 15 years of my working life has an excessively blue smurf as its icon. A "choked smurf". I decided to restore him to normal colour - and it's easy. All I did was; Find a new 3...